they are very smart. >> romney has not proven to be gaffe free. >> i think they both may make gaffes. the president, off the teleprompter, and he says you didn't build that, two weeks of fodder for romney. >> the private sector doing well. that, too. >> last week on "60 minutes" a few "bumps in the road," in the middle east. >>gregg: so, gaffe central? >> we have to look at the other time. what is the obama staff telling the president to do? he hasn't debated if four years and it is very hard to debate in practice disa-- a sitting president. he needs to be sticking to the lines he is using on the stump that have not gotten him in trouble. the ones about the government want dog double down and bring back the same policies, he will just say that. you are not going to hear new stuff from the president. >> romney, you are right, obama will try to keep it from being controversial. romney has to engage the president in a different way, not personally, directly. he needs to engage the big issues when we talk about definition he needs to define the fact that, look, this is what i am going to